Posted by Matt: first off... i'd like to set the record
stright about this whole "Meteora is an over-produced piece of crap" ...it
is actually quite a well produced and balanced album... and to all you
try-hard bedroom musicians and e-zine critiques (esp. you antiGUY!)who
know nothing about music, you can KISS MY ASS!!!... i am a professional
musician of 10 years (doing every style and genre from Jazz to Electronica)
and a music technology and audio engineering student at the Western Australian
Academy of Performing Arts... so i think that my knowledge on the matter
is a little more valid than yours!!! ... if you weren't such tools and
victims of the commercial music industry you'd know that the whole concpet
of a record being "over-produced" ...is simply just a buzz phrase... IT
MEANS NOTHING YOU RETARDS!!! As for Linkin Park themselves, i do agree
that to some extent some of the stuff on Meteora is a bit of a let down
in terms of its originality in contrast to Hybrid Theory, however that's
no reason to write off the album completely, because its quite good. I
am a little disappointed in the way in which LP has "sold out" so-to-speak
in the commercial music industry and yes Reanimation was very hip hop oriented,
but much of it also showed an industrial / breaks / electronica side to
the story too. To give a fair (and i'll try to be as objective as possible)
summary of the band and their work; they pioneered some really great ideas
in Hybrid Theory and inevidibly cercomed to the evil grasp of the pop world...
but to write them of completely is wrong because they do produce some really
great music. I still have hope for them.
Posted by
EycHaus: I'm going to start off by countering how
beautiful and complex and "arty" their music is: Playing with Pro Tools
does not make you Tool. As for Chester having the best and most powerful
voice, introduce yourself to Mike Patton, Maynard James Keenan, Henry Rollins,
and Bruce Dickinson. For those who say LP mixes a broad array of styles
well, introduce yourself to Faith No More, Mr. Bungle, and even CLUTCH!
For asking who has made a breakthrough album EVERYTIME UP: Faith No More
(or any other project featuring Mike Patton on Vocals), III and Assjack
(three bootlegs that push the envelope of country, punk, and metal.) Melvins
didn't every album, but a good 13 out of their 18 (including the seemingly
out of left field "Gluey Porch Treatments" in an era of "Master of Puppets"
and "Reign in Blood.") Especially with the Trilogy, Electroretard, and
Collossus of Destiny: 5 albums, 2 and a half years, ALL COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
The band is just a three piece, yet come off as HEAVIER than a band with
twice the members and not even one quarter the talent. As for the riffs,
check out some European Metal. For the percussion: Dave Lombardo, anyone?
How about Dale Crover, Igor Cavalera, Vinnie Paul, John Fazzio. I don't
trust Reveiwers, I just trust my ears. My first impression of this act
was a well marketed group aimed to pick up sales from a certain demographic.
Did I get this off of "In the End?" No, I got it off of "One Step Closer."
If being static is what is expected of them: Motorhead, Iron Maiden, and
even Hatebreed do a better job. AS for bands that is supposed to progress:
Corrosion of Conformity, AFI, Ours, etc. As for it being good pop: Ours,
Depeche Mode, Pre-Gravity Our Lady Peace, Post-Fab Four Beatles. As far
as "overproduction," when more studio time is spent behind a computer instead
of behind an instrument, it tends to get that reputation. Listen to Most
Nashville records from the past year, and then listen to American-Era Johnny
Cash or Hank Williams III's "Lovesick, Broke, and Driftin'". Sometimes,
unpolished is GOOD. You want what they call "art rock" (that is the description
Rolling Stone tried to pass off on us), Try Rush. Another 3 piece, oddly
enough. Geddy Lee ALONE has several times the talent of LP. Try Pink Floyd,
(References to George Orwell will always be better than having a Gundam
figure in your video.)
Posted by
HSoul: I think it's funny how most of you who
rip Linkin Park apart have become so brainwashed by reviewers like the
one above. I don't trust reviews because people let their personal biases
seep in and cloud their judgement, as antiguy has done(i know that he isn't
a fan of raprock)I've heard some complaints that "I think this album is
over-produced". Do some of you people even know what that means? I like
Linkin Park because they combine certain unique elements into one sound
that sounds incredible. Chester has the BEST and STRONGEST voice I have
heard, and if you think it's weak your ears must really suck. Linkin Park
are a manufactured band? than how come there's demos floating around there
from years ago and how come they have so much history as a band? If you
don't know their history you can't make these false claims. They came together
pretty much the same way as most bands do...meeting in high schools and
college. Keep it up Linkin Park, incredible second album
Posted by
The world is full of idiots: I'm GAY!
Posted by
youlookalikamon: Why do you want them to break new ground??
How many bands around can you say break new groudn with every album. The
only reason you bad mouth this album is probably because your expectations
are way too high. Don't expect every album to be a Dark side of the moon
or White album just expect the best in mediocrity because that's all music
basically is today. Also the first song "Don't stay" is catchy as hell.
Posted by
Hmmm: Yes linkin Park WAS good. But after reanimation
LP just became an icon to me. Lyrics for Meteroa are horrible...I mean
there is no creativity there. LP did say that this album wasnt going to
be the same as Hybrid Theory, they also should of mentioned that this album
was going to suck and that there focus isnt on their musical talent, but
fame and fortune. Well, sad to say that this album sucks so bad that I
don't even think thell get fame and fortune. Yes, the music is very much
formulated. And all of you LP fans, go listen to some other rock...such
as System Of A Down. Yea, thell make you guys strait again.
Posted by
Jack's torn soul: I think linkin park was good.. but they've
become to pop for me.. I mean.. I know hybrid theory by heart.... but..
chirst... enough is enough ... I mean.. change something of ur style...
the other way.. every song I hear becomes.. poppyer and popyer.. and it's
driving me insane.. chirst.. I know there just trying to help album sells..
but it shouldn't be like that... They should sing from the heart.. screw
what everyone thinks.. and maybe they've been in the spotlight long enough
to make that.. what's in his heart.. and if so.. he has my pity... There
music is nice.. and all.. but.. IDK.. this is just my opinoin on things....
P.S. I got my name.. from the movie fight club.. watch it and comprhend..
the world....
Posted by
NAd®~²ºº³~: Linkin Park ARE TOO GOOD! stop talkin'
nonsense dey r among da best rock bands around... listen do their music...
http://www.onenad.dk3.com or http://www.onenad.tk LP RULZ!!!
Posted by
tobee1: I think there are some good and bad things
about Linkin Park.I agree with pretty much everything Dreamy Rover has
to say...unoriginal-they definatley are, rap/rock is nothing new, Mike
Shinoda's attempt at "rapping" is usually laughable (I kill myself laughing
every time I see him in that video for Somewhere I Belong-putting on a
really serious face and saying sh!t!) The drumming is boring, and to say
the songs are repetitive is an understatement. However, they have done
some good I think, I'm sure that a lot of kids who might otherwise have
been listening to NSync or something have been introduced to rock music
and therefore might have been exposed to some of the cool stuf thats happening
at the moment. To write Linkin Park off s untalanted as a group is wrong,
they might not be doing anything groundbreaking, but they know how to write
sh!t that sells like crazy, now they're all stinkin rich-maybe no good
thing, they migh start trying to be movie stars or something...can you
imagine Friday 13th part 5000 Starring Chester Bennington...ahhhhh that
would be scary!
Posted by
Hombre: Chester Bennington can't sing but I bet
he can scream better if he were sodomized.
Posted by
Dreamy Rover: LINKIN PARK is a stupid low-grade chewing
gum pop with rap/half-assed screams & lousy guitarwork. LINKIN PARK
probably combine the worst elements of rap,pop, rock & metal (gasp!)
& come off sounding so inane and formulaic that it's unusual if one
reasonable musically passionate guy is not enraged by what they pass off
as 'music'. Any person with a brain & a good sensible pair of ears
wouldn't be caught dead listening to an abhorring outfit like LINKIN PARK
so stop whining. Chester does not have a powerful voice, I can rap better
than Mike Shinoda (but I don't, coz I don't want to embarass myself) &
the music... oh great! Enriching! Like you actually learn something about
life coz they've got so many meaningful things to say! And that's done
so wonderfully by screaming and rapping and then screaming and rapping
in simplistic high-school grade poetry. Nothing else sounds like LINKIN
PARK, you guys say? I'd say nothing else sounds as BAD as LINKIN PARK!
Their sorry half-assed attempts at being philosophical or saying something
serious through their songs is laughable. And musically, they don't entertain
either... the 'pop' coated music being so bland & rubbish! How much
hard work goes into writing a cheesy LINKIN PARK song? If you wanna talk
about real good hard work going into making music, then we should be discussing
bands like OPETH & CEA SERIN, not a no-good band like LP. The aesthetic
and the technical side of LP's music lacks creativity of any sort. I don't
know what YOUR viewpoint on creativity is, but to me, it's something that's
gotta be extraordinary and original. LP is nothing like that at all. The
songs are nothing new in concept, the music is so full of cliches it's
painful to hear that kind of awful collaborating of different genres of
music... and doing an awful job of it. The styles of music LP seem to MIX
need a credible amount of musical talent & originality... like CELTIC
FROST... LP don't experiment, have no creditable musical skills & the
songwriting (lyrics) and composition of the songs... are less than average
by my standards. It takes a hell of a lot of imagination to mix and cross-breed
different styles of music. LP's brand of music is a sorry attempt at that.
Even if I want to be entertained, I would pick up a better sounding band
than LP. Their melodies are sickeningly repetitive & in one song alone,
they get stuck on ONE simple melody line... so stop looking at them as
some really amazing group of oh-so-skilled musicians. They suck & that's
about the only thing they're so good at. And yeah, Chester can't sing for
nuts!
Posted by
Mindskrew: What gets me these days is people buy
into the same old rehashed crap thats already been done. Im sick and tired
of prefabbed rock bands getting respect for being "talented" BULLSH!T!
Linkin Park couldnt write a decent song if they had to. No arrangement
skills, no tone, its all a dog and pony show. All I can do I guess is hope
it all ends soon. THe world needs agreater variety of music. Not the same
25 songs on the radio at all times!
Posted by
DeadSun: Rap-is-not-rock : You either a.) Need
to down- grade from Class A to Class D drugs--- or b.) need to actually
read some of my posts, I hate LP and LB BOTH with a passion ( what the
hell are you talking about? ) You didn't ANSWER my question, and my "illiterate
little blathers" display better spelling, syntax and grammar than anything
you've posted to date ( most amusing ). I politely asked a simple question,
and you start spoutiing off like you have a bad case of the "verbal squirts"---
what gives?
Posted by
LithiumBliss: fUk U u DrEeM rOvEr!!1 I bEt U dReEm Of
CoRnHoLiNg Ur DoGg RoVeR wHeN u LiSsEn 2 tHaT mEtTeL POOP! MiKe ShInOdA
iZ dA bEzTeSt LyRiC cYsT 4 EvA! If U dOnT lIeK lInKiN pArK u DoNt NoE sHyTe
FrOm ShInOdA!!1
Posted by
Jadey: You might think that both albums hybrid
theory and meteora may sound similiar but alot of people loved hybrid theory
so why should they change their music? if they did how many of those people
who loved the first album do you tihnk would buy the meteora album if it
sounds different you dont think of it as linkin park anymore many bands
have done and i stopped listening to them because of it
Posted by
Aliya: I also want to add that I'm sick and tired
of the complete lack of intelligence of some Linkin Park fans. You give
a bad name to the ones that have half a brain. Simply writing LINKIN PARK
RULES will not deter people from insulting them. Perhaps if you came up
with a few legible arguements that favour the band, people would stop and
consider your point of view. As well, I believe that Chester does have
a powerful voice, not just for screaming. And Mike has good rap skills,
even though they aren't really showcased in this album (save maybe Nobody's
Listening). As for the people who say that their lyrics are, well, crap.
I disagree. For the sole reason that I can relate to a lot of what they
sing about. At least their stuff makes sense and it's not them screaming
about how amazing they think they are. They are also such hard workers
and really put love into their music and everything they do. They care
about their fans and care about giving them alot. Just take, as an example,
the artwork of Meteora, as well as the free concerts for all LPU members.
No Meteora is not as good as Hybrid Theory, nor is it that much different.
It is however, a solid album with relatively good tracks. They aren't metal
and I hope to god that they never will be.
Posted by
Aliya: I just want to say to all those idiots
who keep saying "Linkin Park aren't metal, listen to REAL metal bands."
Get a freakin clue. I don't listen to LP because I think they are metal,
I don't even LIKE metal. I listen to Linkin Park because I enjoy the music.
I like the way the MIX genres and I enjoy their overall sound. No, I don't
believe that they are amazing musicians or innovators but there is really
no one out there that has their sound. I just find it hilarious that people
take so much time to bash them, and insult the people that enjoy their
music. Obviously everyone has different opinions and as long as it sounds
good to you, why fight it? That's the reason Britney Spears will continue
to sell albums, some people like her and that's fine. So in short, just
whatever. Take your metal bands, and "better" music and move on and let
the fans enjoy what they like. Also, if you insist on so harshly expressing
your opinion, please make sure that you actually make sense. Full sentences
and mediocre spelling would suffice.
Posted by
Dreamy Rover: Mr. GOD I am crushed! Do you have a patent
on the phrase 'NEXT!'? By the way, it's hilarious to see these mallcore
kids out here preaching LP is all about good music & impeccable taste
in music, coz they're sooooooo real! I won't say anything, but I am going
back to listen to GARAGE INC. Who cares to join me? Linkin Park is an mtv-grade
band. U should know what that means.
Posted by
rap-is-not-rock: by the way, hate to bust the LP bubble
but Motley Crue's Dr Feelgood, Hootie and Blowfish and Alanis all sold
as many if not more CD's than LP did and look where they are at now.
Posted by
rap-is-not-rock: For one that quote came from the front
page of the site. Secondly, you are HEAR to fight the good LP fight? So
now the kids in the mall are on a crusade for LP? dude get a grip all the
trendies already love this crappy little band. who you fighting are people
with taste that won't be won over by your illiterate little blathers. Go
convert some cheerleaders. Make sure you get your Tommy Boy Limp Bizkit
action figures while you are at it. Don't come to close to us here or we'll
have to sheer you since you are such a sheep. bahhhh
Posted by
DeadSun: "rock-a-mic-like-this : Please, allow
me. Firstly, a quote : "to say that means you are a fan of nothing!!!"---
now, a question. How so? To be sure that I'm not misinterpreting what you
mean by this, can you please explain what you DO mean in stating that?
We'll go from there.
Posted by
rock-a-mic-like-this: To Lamo LP fans, what gave you the right
to refer to LP as HACKS? We all know who you were referring to, so don't
even try to act as if it was a general statement. Hater: Lame term used
by sheepish followers of Hacks or the Hacks themselves to describe people
who have enough taste not to listen to such trite garbage. Nice definition.
How long did it take you to come up with that rubbish? To say that means
you are a fan of nothing which means you stand for nothing!!! Freedom of
expression, I have the right to say whatever I want to you! MUAH HA HA
HA !!! HA! If you'd like to challenge my statement, go ahead, by all means.
I'm hear to fight the good LP fight.
Posted by
Mr. GOD: Dreamy! You stole my line(NEXT!). I've
yet to hear any of the new LP. Sadly, my day leave little time for the
luxury of Mtv.
Posted by
**** YOU LINKIN RULEZ: F*** YOU ALL LINKIN PARK ROCKZzz THE NETHERLANDS
(17)
Posted by
To Lamo LP Fans: A hack: Someone of limited, if not nonexistent,
talent that somehow becomes popular. Hater: Lame term used by sheepish
followers of Hacks or the Hacks themselves to describe people who have
enough taste not to listen to such trite garbage. Jealous: Another term
often used by hacks and their sheepish followers. In their mind if you
do not like the product produced by the Hack then the only logical reason
could be that you are jealous of their luck at becoming popular with their
lack of talent. The reality of the matter is those people often referred
to as haters who are accused of being jealous simply have enough taste
and sense not to purchase the products produced by the Hacks and see the
Hacks product for what it is, TOTAL CRAP!
Posted by
rock-a-mic-like-this: FOR ALL YOU LP SOLDIERS OUT THERE READING
THE HATE MESSAGES, ONE WORD OF ADVICE...SHAKE THE HATERS! It's interesting
how the very ones who have time to go ape sh!t on Linkin Park, are the
very same people who don't have the time to edit their psycho babble. I'm
not here to preach to the masses how you shouldn't express how you feel
about LP's music. It's self expression, you feel however you choose to
feel. But for crying out loud, GIVE THE GUYS A BREAK. They busted their
butts day in and day out to deliver what I thought was a pretty creditable
album. They really advanced on their sound, breaking away from the same
old "I hate my father, I was so abused as a child," themes. Instead they
grew lyrically incorporating looking at inner self and making changes within,
actually confessing that the proverbial "they're" or "I'm" in some cases,
is the one who's confused. Not every band can grow like that. They have
a sound that they can call their own, which is not some processed fabrication
as some bored LP haters may put it. If you like and respect Linkin Park,
more power to you. You are among the many that will one day lead this world
with your outstanding taste in music. For all who do not, that's cool too,
but until you bust a$$ to perfect a craft that is the heart and soul of
your very existance...shut your mouths and get a hobby.
Posted by
haahhhhaa: Oh you are a racist if you don't like
crappy music now? Wow you PC kids are really going overboard with your
Fred Missy Can't Rhyme Elliot Durst hater crap. Crap is crap has nothing
to do with race and the last time I checked this lame ass band was fronted
by peckerwoods.
Posted by
LiNkin' PaRk'z Sweet: As they said below, LP is one of the most
catchiest bands out there. I think that is exactly what music is about.
Just give it a chance and you might get into it. I used to be a hater.
I stopped being music Racist and it opened a doorway I never thought I'd
see. LP is a very very good and catchy band...
Posted by
StarFighterBPS: LP has something most bands don't, good
music. When I say music I don't mean lyrics. I mean the sweet melodies
that they produce are brilliant. What is wrong with a couple of good artists
getting tegother and making good music. The lyrics aren't bad eighter,
a few songs are directed towards teens, but mostly it's good all around.
Posted by
A concerned Citizen: Music is about Pleasure to the ear.. Not
about the members being tight with the listeners. Ignorance of America
made it the way it is now.. I know when I hear pleasent melodies, and LP
Meteora did just that. Keep up the good work even if it gets you some cash.
To all that oppose-- a big F-U
Posted by
DeadSun: That's an excellent propaganda technique,
Mr. Kenny. You've got it worded so that those who LIKE Linkin' Park's "music"
are protrayed as youthful and full of vigor, whereas those who DON'T like
them are old and slothful. Maybe you should read the SECOND posting I made
here. Linkin' Park's music contains as much attitude and vigor as a 1972
Pinto at a drag race.
Posted by
aG: No Ms Kenny, by people who actually expect
something aside from market driven drivel from music.
Posted by
Mr Kenny: Is This Site Ran By Old Farts?
Posted by
the man: i hate lp commercial jizzbags
Posted by
LP LuVVA BRUVA: Bois dont u see that LP R a kickA$ band!1!!
Thyer so deep and kool and THEY JUST RIOCKS!@ the Getarsists R so talented!!!
Their Drop D, 4-6 chord, predicatble 'guitaring' is sooo ogood! THEY DUN
NEESD SOLOS LIKE SLYAER AND METALLICA!@ THEER BETA THAN THAT! All of you
piss off and die - love ThatFilthyStinkingHobo
Posted by
Jon: This album is probably the worst piece
of manufactured crap since you arent aloud to cuss on here...I tried...they
wont post it...which is another thing...why cant you cuss...if you do f*ck...everyone
knows what it is...so who f*cking cares!
Posted by
WANKSTAIN: DEAR GOD THEY'RE LAME.
Posted by
Illinoischic: lp rules theres no ifs, ands, or buts
about it they rule no matter what they sing about or how they sing! they
should continue with what their doing cuz its workin for them but if they
wanna try somethin new it will probly sound just as good if not better!
Posted by
sllipgun: dude, evanesence is not all that great
considering the subtleties. this is what i am trying to say. linkin park
have a lot of things going on in their music. a LOT. but people are still
concerned with screaming. damn they r a good pop band and don gilmore should
be officially be apart of them considering the excellent production. there
r a lot of influences here at work and compressing them into 37 minutes
is sheer genius. and as for the much HT Vs meteora, meteora is a lot better.
track to track. lyric to lyric. will add something about re-animation too.
look, it was a REMIX album. so if u cannot see the greatness of chali2na
and the likes, please form a taste of hiphop first and then review
Posted by
Riamo Equah: Snake part two...hmmm everyone knows sequals
sux, hehe, anyway linkin park rules....Atiq sux...hehehe kidding...for
those of u attempting to read this...forget about it, this is more of a
personal comment to a friend...if u read this whole thing...heheh have
fun figuring this out, hehehe
Posted by
snake part 2: linkin park sucks. that's all but the
song in the end reminds me my "love story" so i love that song!
Posted by
Riamo Equah: Wait up, I agree with the fact that Hybrid
Theory seemed to be better than Meteora, but thats only because it was
LPs first album, Cmon. I mean Hybrid Theory, hell linkin park where fresh
bands, with a somewhat fresh sound. Meteora didnt come as short as the
above article is saying. In fact if anything it was just as good as Hybrid
Theory, if Meteora had come before hybrid Theory, well then u would consider
hybrid theory to come up short of lps greatness. And calling Lp a boyband
with guitar is hardly fair, if u think of it like that, any rock band that
doesnt dress like some freak, doesnt mean they are some boy band...
Posted by
Mike: What's the big deal about the whole screaming
thing? I said he's a good singer, not a good screamer. They aren't that
type of music, they're melodic. Are you expecting them to be Slayer or
something?
Posted by
hahah: oh yeah Vi2005, saying that a band is
better than Limp Bizkit isn't really saying much. I mean a garage band
thats been together a week can should better than those assdclowns but
at least we know your frame of reference so we know not to give your opinion
much weight. Once puberty is over you'll see just how "sick" this losers
are.
Posted by
hahah: It's sick alright. Made me sick listening
to it. There is a perfect word to describe LP's sound, "crap!"
Posted by
Vi2005: Thats bull man!! I bought the album today
and its sick. i think they've proved themselves as a band and made 13 more
reasons to love these guys and they're talent. And as for "your little
sister will love it", kiss my ass. Tracks like these dont deserve the pop
label they're all solid rock they blew bands like limp bizkit and other
acts out of the water. no disrespectin linkin park
Posted by
lplvr2000: Linkin park rocks! Buy the CD METEORA
Posted by
SubXavier: Anyone heard Evanescence? They're like
Linkin Park, but with a female singer, and more talented.
Posted by
Dreamy Rover: I'll add one more thing... LP may do their
music honestly, and care for the fans & work hard to make their music
perfect... doesn't mean they're actually good at it. When I was in school,
I had a band of my own, with a fabulous guitarist who could match Yngwie's
skill if not talent. We did our thing honestly & tried to made our
songs as good as possible. But we ended up recording a lot of bad songs.
It was only with time and experience we got a lil better & now I have
a different band, which, fortunately, has been able to write really good
songs, judging by our own expectations. A lot of bands are horrible despite
trying their best. Let's say, in the case of LP, Chester might want to
scream as good as he possibly can, but it comes off as corny & without
strength and conviction. I have said it before, LP is a band with limited
talent. So, they might do music with the right intentions, but they just
don't have it in them.
Posted by
Dreamy Rover: Anybody has heard OAKENFOLD? It's a darn
good Techno setup... It's intelligent. Alright, I'll not label LP as anything,
will not relegate them to some DEFINED specific format of music. On their
own, they are boring, I must admit. The songs don't interest me, por favor,
I've heard better bands in all categories... The bands which crossbred
Pop & Rock in different times & with different styles... DEPECHE
MODE & DURAN DURAN... I love 'em a lot, I grew up on them before I
latched on to heavy metal. But again, I listen to a variety of music. Besides
metal, so many other bands are brilliant. It's just that LP are not one
of them. Even the rap part... well, it's silly poetry... Chester is a very
weak vocalist... LP came out with a dud, the remix album of their commercial
hit... totally unnecessary... and now Meteora... all the possible interesting
elements of LP are gone... uninspired writing, with no thought process
really going into the songs... written ONLY because they thought,"Oh it's
time to make another album." As I said, they put their best fruits in the
first basket itself (their debut album) and now they're completely devoid
of ideas to write good songs once again. It happens to a lot of bands.
